DF64 Gen 2
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Rank 5 out of 8 Summarized in this category Rankings based on: • Pros-to-cons ratio • Number of reviews • Category average

Turin

DF64 Gen 2

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151 Pros

71%
12 reviews (2h 3m)

61 Cons

63%

17 vs 10

Ease of Use

71%

12 vs 5

Grind Quality

65%

33 vs 18

Durability/Build Quality

92%

22 vs 2

Features

47%

8 vs 9

Design/Aesthetics

Reviewer verdict

Pros Cons Index analysed 12 YouTube video reviews of the Turin DF64 Gen 2: it earns an Index score of 3.8/5, ranking #5 among Coffee Grinders. Reviewers most often praise its other, durability/build quality, features, while the most common criticisms concern durability/build quality, ease of use.

Pros: The Turin DF64 Gen 2 stands out for its remarkable value, offering significant upgrades over its predecessor. Reviewers consistently praise its vastly improved all-metal build quality, premium finish with wood accents, and enhanced ergonomics like a relocated power button and smoother grind adjustment. Functionally, it excels with near-zero retention and minimal static, thanks to an effective integrated plasma generator, creating a much cleaner workflow. The grinder performs well out of the box with solid stock burrs that produce flavorful espresso and are easy to access for cleaning or upgrading. These comprehensive improvements in design, usability, and performance make it a highly recommended single-dosing grinder for its price.

Cons: The most significant drawback of the DF64 Gen 2 is its loud operation, which many reviewers find disruptive. While the overall build is praised, certain elements feel unrefined; the included portafilter holder is consistently criticized as flimsy and feeling like an afterthought. Some users also dislike the industrial aesthetic and find the metal catch cup prone to rattling. For filter coffee enthusiasts, the stock declumper may produce excessive fines without user modification, and the stock burrs may not provide the highest clarity for very light roasts, prompting some to consider aftermarket upgrades for optimal performance.

Analysis based on 12 YouTube reviews (2h 3m of video) with 151 pros and 61 cons extracted.

Pros (151)

Other (35)
  • Robusteres neues Gummi (etwas schwergängiger, aber robuster als vorher) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Thicker rubber parts (less rattling) and rubber O‑ring on dosing cup to reduce rattle — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Quick grinding — less than 10 seconds to grind 18 g — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Real wood top (walnut) blower — premium material — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Relatively good burr alignment (majority aligned ~70–90%) out of the box — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Nice aesthetics — wood accents and well-designed catch cup with rubber riser — ▶ Watch
  • Burrs produce excellent espresso — fluffy grounds, great mouthfeel and body, and clarity balance on natural-processed beans — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Dialing range suggested — around 12–15 as a starting point (easy to dial in) — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Affordable alternative to higher-end single-dosing grinders (around €399) — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Consistent dosing / very low retention — if you put in 18 g you’ll get ~18 g out most of the time — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Great value: one of the best grinders available under €500 — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Aluminum (metal) dosing/catching cup with thin lip — nicer than plastic and reduces ring in coffee — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Switch moved to the side — much easier to reach than Gen 1 — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • 250 W motor — solid power spec — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Low retention (~0.1 g without blower, near zero with blower) — excellent for dosing consistency — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Very low static in chute (plasma/anti‑static generator works well) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Grinder feels like a step up from DF64 Gen 1 and competitive at ~£/$400 price range — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Good dose accuracy / low weight loss in speed test (typical retention 0.1–0.2 g) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Solid overall performer with improved workflow and most small quirks fixed — good value for money — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Acceptable extraction time and yield (36 g in ~33 seconds; 6–7 second pre-infusion/pour pace mentioned) — ▶ Watch
  • Dosing cup is metal (aluminum) — solid feel — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Finish/‘Bello’ is nicer and sleeker than previous version — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Nice wooden cap on top — sharp, clean look — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • All-metal dial with numbers — refined design — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Well thought-out design with popcorn stopper — clever/detail oriented — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Produces fluffy grounds — noticeable improvement over previous Gen 1 — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Überarbeitete Generation 2 ist insgesamt interessanter und verbessert gegenüber der ersten Mühle — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Neuer Dosierbecher aus Aluminium (statt Plastik) wirkt hochwertig, passt gut auf den Siebträger und hält gut — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Direktes Mahlen in den Siebträger funktioniert gut (weniger Statik, gute Aufhängung) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Sehr gute Performance: sehr geringe Toträume (permanent <0,2 g, austauschbar <0,1 g) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Hohe Mahlgeschwindigkeit für die Preisklasse (25 g in ~10 s) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Keine signifikante Erwärmung beim Mahlen von Bezug zu Bezug — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Flüssige, angenehme Bedienung im Alltag; konstante Dosierung (z. B. 18 g rein → 18 g raus) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Gute Präzision beim Zurückkehren zu Rezepten; Partikelverteilung und Konsistenz sehr gut für die Preisklasse — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • 64 mm Malscheiben bieten Upgrade-Möglichkeiten (kompatibel mit anderen hochwertigen Malscheiben) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
Durability/Build Quality (33)
  • Huge improvement in grind cup (premium, beefy metal cup with O-rings and riser ring) — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • New in-house Turin burrs are better than the old Aillio/Itemmill burrs — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Metal adjustment ring and included adjustment mechanism (better than Gen 1) — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Much improved metal build quality (metal case) over Gen 1 — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • 83 mm vertical-mounted (DF83) offers much more cutting surface area and faster grind times (larger burs give cleaner cup) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Support for many aftermarket burrs (SSP, etc.) in the larger bur sizes — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • DF64 Gen2 does what it needs to do reliably; no flashy/features but solid performance — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • 64 mm stainless steel flat burrs and 58 mm aluminum dosing cup with collar and portafilter holder (good specs) — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • 250 W motor handles light roasted coffees easily — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Great exterior build quality, fit and finish—much more premium than older DF64 — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Improved internal design (wavy spring washer, redesigned grind chamber) for smoother operation — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Excellent out-of-box burr alignment (almost perfect) — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • DF64 Gen2 is very well built with a mostly full-metal construction (interior and exterior) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Updated wave spring replaces multiple small springs and better distributes force for alignment — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Rubber vibration-dampening stops on the DF64 are fixed (less likely to lose them) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Motors are very capable (250 W for the 64) and do not stall — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Upgradeability: many third-party 64mm burr options (SSP etc.) to dramatically change performance — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Burrs remain clean and do not warm up, giving consistent performance shot after shot — ▶ Watch
  • Appears to be lubricated with likely food-safe lubricant (smooth operation) — ▶ Watch
  • Same cut pattern burrs from the manufacturer as higher-end DF-64v (good performance) — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Solid, premium-feeling metal build and sleek finish (matte black or white), heavier than similar grinders which conveys quality — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Rubber hopper that effectively clears grounds into the grinder — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • 64 mm stainless steel flat burrs provide uniform particles, excellent for espresso and good for filter and moka pot — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Burrs are upgradable (e.g., SSP) and stock burrs deliver a brighter, more modern flavor than Gen 1 — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Looks much more professional than Gen 1 (overall build/finish) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Everything metal construction feels heavier and more premium — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Included wooden lid of noticeably better material than DF64V — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Works well with stock stainless-steel burrs included with the DF64 Gen 2 — ▶ Watch
  • Unboxing/build quality looks pretty good — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Cleaner design using wave spring similar to DF83 — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Solid motor sound / strong motor — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Burrs are perfectly aligned from factory — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Proprietary burrs give good balance of body and clarity; acceptable as permanent burr set — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
Features (22)
  • Ionizer greatly reduces static, essentially eliminating grind flyaway/mess — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Anti-popcorning disc and funnel improvements eliminate beans flying out — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Variable speed (V) option down to 300 RPM for tuning — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Ionizer included to help reduce retention and spray — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Auger feeding present (DF64v/DF83 context) improves bean feeding vs. gravity feed — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Integrated anti-popcorn device (anti-popcorn lid) reducing bean jump/mess — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Plasma generator / ionizer reduces static and minimizes need for RDT — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Ionizer effectively minimizes static compared to older DF64 and many other grinders — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Anti-popcorn lid helps workflow, especially when hot-starting — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Multiple burr options available pre-installed by vendor (Espresso Outlet) for convenience — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Anti-popcorning disc is effective at reducing bean popcorning and looks nice — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Plasma generator (anti-static) is included and reduces static reasonably well — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Anti-popcorning device and bellows included and effective — ▶ Watch
  • Built-in funnel/anti-popcorn design that funnels beans perfectly into the chute — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Has a plasma generator that reduces mess/static — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Small rubber piece included to keep dosing cup close to chute and reduce mess — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Anti-popcorning disc prevents beans from bouncing and ensures even feeding — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Comes with an effective anti-popcorn disc that significantly reduces popcorning and grinding time — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Works well out of the box with reduced static thanks to redesigned clump crusher and new 'plasma generator' tech — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Plasma generator feature works (static reduction) — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Deutlich reduzierte statische Aufladung durch eingebauten Plasma-Ionisierer, weniger Partikelflug beim Mahlen — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Antipopcorn-Einheit verhindert, dass Bohnen beim Mahlen rausspringen — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
Ease of Use (17)
  • DF64 Gen2 is simple to use — one button and collar adjustment; supports swapping 64mm burrs — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Stepless grind adjustment with infinite settings and adjustable metal dial indicator for zeroing — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Smooth, easy-to-turn grind adjustment and stepless control — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Adjustment ring on the DF64 is fully stepless and is butter smooth — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Holds zero well (grind setting remains consistent) — ▶ Watch
  • User-friendly large adjustment dial — ▶ Watch
  • Works well without needing RDT or other tricks (just dump beans in) — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Redesigned ground chute and repositioned power button for easier access — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Can grind directly into portafilter or dosing cup; compatible with dosing funnels to reduce mess — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Improved usability: chrome-wrapped grind adjustment wheel with precise metal dial indicator and stepless adjustment for fine tuning — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Easy to change burrs and straightforward to dial in — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Proper grind indicator (reminds of DF83) and metal lip so indicator won't scratch plate — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • On/off button relocated to the side (more accessible) and not backlit (less distracting) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Removed ugly bean dial indicator from the original — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Dosing ring and aluminum catch cup provide flexible dosing options (can grind directly into portafilter) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • D (dial) setting around 8 produced good results for these beans — ▶ Watch
  • Verbessertes Mahlgrad-Anzeigewerk (aus Aluminium), zeigt Position des Mahlgrades an — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
Grind Quality (12)
  • Delivered solid espresso and filter coffee out of the box; performance improved with seasoning — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Produces thick crema and very good shots (works really good) — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Stock burrs are good improvements over older Atal mills and can produce sweet pour-overs and good espresso — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Good body and sweetness for filter; strong espresso performance with good-bodied shots — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • DF64 Gen2 produces vibrant espresso shots with decent clarity (good espresso performance) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Produces a wide range of brews (espresso, pourover, cold brew) — very versatile / all-in-one grinder — ▶ Watch
  • Major improvements over original model: better grind quality, less static, and no popcorning — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Produces good espresso: sharp flavor, caramel notes, balanced sweetness and clarity — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • New burr set performs well for espresso and filter; gives more clarity and acidity (better than original burrs) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Produces a good espresso shot (36 g) with a syrupy, thick body and pleasant signature herbal flavor — ▶ Watch
  • Low acidity in the extracted espresso (not acidic at all) — ▶ Watch
  • Führt zu gutem bis sehr gutem Espresso (gute Endergebnisse) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
Retention (9)
  • Low retention design (very little coffee left inside after use) — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Vertical orientation reduces retention and improves throughput compared to horizontal layouts — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Very low retention (typically 0–0.1 g, max observed 2 g); bellows and redesign make it near no-retention — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Retention on the grinders is pretty low (helps reduce wasted grounds) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Red Speed Titanium burrs show very little retention after a month of varied use — ▶ Watch
  • Overall very little retention throughout the grinder (including down the chute) making switching coffees easy — ▶ Watch
  • Highly precise, clump-free grind thanks to redesigned declumper and built-in anti-static (plasma generator) system — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Grind looks very clean compared to DF64P / DF64P has more static — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Redesigned declumper reduces retained coffee to under a gram after seasoning — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
Design/Aesthetics (8)
  • Nice wood lid and rubber bellows (improved aesthetics and function) — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Both grinders have improved ergonomics, look nicer and are less messy than older DF iterations — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Compact dimensions that fit under most kitchen cabinets while leaving space for hopper — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Aesthetic and functional upgrades over Gen 1: redesigned front panel, black aluminum dosing cup, wooden hopper lid, and premium finish — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Compact footprint fits well into many setups and worked well with multiple espresso machines tested — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Improved chute design and placement of power cable — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Matte finish feels higher quality compared to the original shiny vinyl wrapper (huge upgrade) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Redesigned front/chute looks more modern and clean — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
Cleaning/Maintenance (6)
  • Easy burr removal and reassembly (wave spring washer design) with tight tolerances — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Magnetized chute and removable parts make cleanup easier — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Bellows work decently and can be used to purge chute and keep grind pot clean — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Burr access is super easy and tool-free (easy to remove hopper/carrier and access burrs) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Easy to clean — removable parts, low mess on the table, and quick cleaning with air blower and brush — ▶ Watch
  • Burr chamber design is easy to access, neat, with minimal retention — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
Value for Money (5)
  • Great overall grinder for the price; easily in top recommendation at just under $400 — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Very good flavor performance for both filter and espresso for the price ($399), holding its own vs more expensive grinders — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Overall much-improved product making it easy to recommend at this price point — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • DF64 Gen2 is especially attractive for people getting more serious about coffee — excellent value for money — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Affordable price around $400 — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
Speed/Performance (3)
  • DF64 Gen2 (the 64mm flat-burr model) is quick, efficient, and maintains consistent grind size for many shots (about 80 shots) without notable drift — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Fast grind speed (example: ~12 seconds for dose) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Overall workflow improvements and fewer issues compared with Gen 1 — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
Noise Level (1)
  • Very quiet when not grinding — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch

Cons (61)

Durability/Build Quality (18)
  • Stalling issues at fine espresso settings and low RPMs (DF64v/DF83 experienced stalls when grinding fine/light roasts), requiring slow feeding or higher RPMs to avoid stalls — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Motor sizing feels excessive for the application (very large motor for the unit) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • When a stall occurs, lack of motor reverse/anticlockwise purge forces manual disassembly to free jammed burr carrier — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Warranty voided if user opens unit to change burrs (despite ease of opening and marketed compatibility) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Aesthetics and lid/hopper design can trap fines/chaff; lid and hopper quality criticized (e.g., lid sucks, popcorning issues) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Little rubber stops (on some models) are easy to lose — though DF64 fixes this, it's a noted weak spot historically — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Porter/portafilter holder feels tacked-on, puny and low quality compared to rest of build — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Flimsy plastic cover at the bottom of the DF83 (mentioned as a weak spot — general build quibble) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Catch cup is awful: mismatched color/finish, awkward two-part design, poor fit and transfer of grounds — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Dosing ring / catch-cup fit is awkward and has exposed gasket-like features (DIY vibe) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • New burrs on DF64 took longer to season and required shimming in the reviewer’s unit (alignment may need adjustment) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Burrs on Gen 2 are not DLC-coated like the DF-64v (different coating/finish) — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch
  • Burrs look small compared with 83 mm and may require seasoning (sharp edges) — burrs may need 'seasoning' or dressing — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Burr alignment not perfect — some portions not aligned (around ~30% misaligned on one area) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Burrs are not the same as the DF64V/DLC-coated set — different mouthfeel and higher RPM; some may prefer the coated burrs — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Many users will likely still swap burrs (64 mm common) — implies stock burrs may not satisfy all enthusiasts — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Metal cup can rattle if not perfectly seated; unpleasant rattling with portafilter/oversized basket — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Gummiteile am Dosierbecher fallen mit der Zeit ab bzw. werden kaputt; Befestigungslösung noch nicht gut — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
Ease of Use (10)
  • Initial item needed fiddling (didn't work immediately on first try) — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Auger design on some models (DF83/DF64v) is short and doesn't fully grab/feed beans effectively; missed opportunity in implementation — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • On/off control is awkward: separate power and burr-actuation button; disliked YY switch arrangement — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Some controls (speed/rotation knobs) have poor tactile feel (metal-on-metal feeling, not smooth) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Dose cup / dosing system is disliked (design awkward on DF64v; for DF64 Gen2 dose cup situation also criticized elsewhere) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Adjustment ring on DF83 can be stiff around espresso range and lacks grip (DF64 is fine but DF83 shows stiffness) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Feeling resistance when reassembling to align the dial (minor assembly fiddliness) — ▶ Watch
  • Would prefer the switch positioned higher up (side is better than old, but not ideal) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • No light on the switch/indicator area — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Dosing ring workaround used because catch cup is not tall enough; would prefer a taller catch cup to avoid extra parts — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
Design/Aesthetics (9)
  • Optics / aesthetics: hopper and bellows look unattractive (described as 'so ugly' and 'choo choo train') — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Optional grinder aesthetic elements (shape/proportions) are not to reviewer’s taste; form feels a little rough around the edges — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Chrome finish on the DF64 less preferred versus all-black option (personal aesthetic complaint) — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Wire placement on DF83 juts out; DF64 base design gives more flexibility — implies DF64 preferable but mentions annoyance in family — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Some aesthetic/finish details (light always on, DIY-looking grind size indicator, sticker text) feel unrefined — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Metal surfaces are fingerprint magnets and will show marks — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Red power button is visually a bit ugly in product pictures (though less noticeable in real life) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
  • Industrial/unattractive aesthetic for some users (exposed set screw/machine-shop vibe) — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Still not visually attractive to those who dislike bellows/industrial looks despite improvements — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
Other (6)
  • Implied previous version had issues — Gen1 was less good (improvement noted) — Hoon's Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Very loud operation — high-pitched squeal; louder than many competitors — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
  • Mahlgradanzeige verliert nach vollständigem Zerlegen die genaue Position; Rückpositionierung nicht ideal gelöst — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Antipopcorn-Einheit kann dazu führen, dass Bohnen (vor allem bei Verwendung von Wasserspray) oben darauf kleben bleiben — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Mahlgrad-Feinverstellung wirkt sehr sensibel: schon eine halbe Klick-Änderung kann die Extraktionszeit um ~2 Sekunden verändern (wenig Bewegung pro Stellung) — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
  • Lautstärke ist hoch: macht Gespräche neben der Mühle oft unmöglich; sehr laute Intensität — Benjamin Hohlmann · ▶ Watch
Grind Quality (5)
  • Standard burrs may not provide the highest clarity for very light-roasted espressos; may require burr upgrade for extreme clarity — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Declumper design causes excessive regrinding/fines for filter use; requires user hack (reduce to single flap and crease) to work well — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Filter performance requires the declumper hack to avoid excessive fines; out-of-the-box filter workflow not ideal — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Body/thinness of espresso extraction noted (body rather thin at the brew ratio used) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • New burrs trend toward a more acidic / sometimes astringent profile in filter coffee (can be unbalanced) — The Coffee Chronicler · ▶ Watch
Cleaning/Maintenance (5)
  • Plasma generator pins positioned deep in the chute, collect coffee around them and are hard to clean — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Needs periodic light cleaning (air blower about once a week and cleaning catch cup every other day) — ▶ Watch
  • Access to the clamp/clamper might still require replacement and potential difficult access (hopes for easier access) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Some minor coffee spillage/coffee around inside after grinding (little mess) — My Coffee Show · ▶ Watch
  • Front assembly (declumper and ionizer area) is somewhat tedious to disassemble for deep cleaning — Daddy Got Coffee · ▶ Watch
Noise Level (3)
  • Grinder is very loud (measured up to ~94 dB) compared with competitors — Aaron Meyers · ▶ Watch
  • Grinder is very loud: DF64 is very loud and DF83 is downright obnoxious; catch cups can rattle and add to noise — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Can be louder than many other grinders — may disturb sleeping partner or baby — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
Retention (3)
  • Chute/shoot design (especially on DF83) causes grounds to hang up; DF64 is shorter but retention still an issue without bellows — ARAMSE · ▶ Watch
  • Some retention of larger pieces and a little retention on the outer burr after extended use (though minor) — ▶ Watch
  • Using the bellow can push a lot of air and make a mess if grinding directly into a portafilter without care — Luke Makes Coffee · ▶ Watch
Features (2)
  • For DF64 Gen2 specifically: lacks extra features — no tricks or standout features (simple but basic) — Lance Hedrick · ▶ Watch
  • Performance of plasma generator / mess reduction may vary with humidity (could be worse in drier weather) — PortaKeeper · ▶ Watch

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Frequently asked questions

Is the Turin DF64 Gen 2 worth buying?

Based on 12 independent YouTube reviews, the Turin DF64 Gen 2 scores 3.8/5 with 151 positive and 61 negative points mentioned by reviewers, placing it #5 in the Coffee Grinders category.

What do reviewers like most about the Turin DF64 Gen 2?

The most praised aspects are other, durability/build quality, features — Other (35 mentions), Durability/Build Quality (33 mentions), Features (22 mentions).

What are the most common complaints about the Turin DF64 Gen 2?

Reviewers most frequently criticize durability/build quality, ease of use — Durability/Build Quality (18 mentions), Ease of Use (10 mentions).

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